Monday, 10 November 2025

Sheldrake

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It’s a great question — and one that shows you’re thinking at the intersection of physics, cosmology, and metaphysics.


Here’s a way to frame it:



1. Dark Matter & Dark Energy: Scientific Hypotheses



We “believe” in dark matter and dark energy not because we have directly seen them, but because:


  • observed gravitational effects don’t match visible matter
  • galaxies rotate too fast
  • cosmic expansion accelerates
  • large-scale structure forms in ways requiring additional mass/energy



These phenomena demand explanations, and dark matter/energy are models that fit the data. They are not metaphysical commitments — they are provisional, testable hypotheses.


They are part of the scientific method:

infer unseen causes from measurable effects, and revise as evidence improves.



2. Panconsciousness / Panentheism: Philosophical or Theological Hypotheses



Panpsychism (everything has some form of consciousness) and panentheism (“all is in God”) operate on a different plane:


  • they propose a metaphysical framework
  • they cannot be directly falsified with current empirical tools
  • they attempt to explain subjective experience, meaning, or the existence of the cosmos



While these ideas may resonate and even align with some interpretations of quantum theory or consciousness studies, they are not empirically constrained in the same way as dark matter/energy.



3. Why People Compare Them



Because all three ideas deal with unseen aspects of reality. But:

Idea

Category

Tested by

Dark matter

Physical hypothesis

Astrophysics, cosmology, gravitational modeling

Dark energy

Physical hypothesis

Expansion rate measurements

Panconsciousness / Panentheism

Metaphysical hypothesis

Philosophy of mind, theology, phenomenology


4. Could panconsciousness ever become scientific?



Possibly — if we find empirical ways to measure or quantify consciousness beyond biology.

For example:


  • detecting consciousness-like processes in non-living physical systems
  • finding mathematical structures that correlate with subjective experience
  • developing a testable “consciousness field” model



At this point, though, it’s speculative.



5. Why not accept metaphysical ideas alongside scientific ones?



You can — but with the understanding that they play different roles:


  • science predicts and measures
  • metaphysics interprets and gives meaning
  • theology provides narrative, moral, or spiritual frameworks



They are not mutually exclusive.



6. A bridge view



Some thinkers propose that consciousness is a fundamental aspect of the universe, perhaps similar to:


  • charge
  • mass
  • spin
  • spacetime



This is a form of naturalistic panpsychism.

It says consciousness is not supernatural — it is just another fundamental quality we haven’t fully understood yet.



Conclusion



Dark matter and dark energy are scientific models with empirical motivation.

Panentheism or panconsciousness are metaphysical models with experiential or philosophical motivation.


Different domains, different kinds of justification — but both valid in their proper context.


If you’d like, we can explore:


  • scientific arguments for/against panpsychism
  • theological versions of panentheism
  • philosophical alternatives (emergentism, idealism, neutral monism)



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Here’s a clean bullet-point gist of the conversation:

  • A Swami from the Ramakrishna Mission speaks with Sri Ramana Maharshi about avidya (ignorance).

  • Maharshi: Avidya is the obstacle to knowing one’s true nature right now.

  • Swami: How can one overcome avidya?

  • Maharshi: Avidya is unreal — “what is not.”
    If it were real, it couldn’t disappear; since it’s false, it vanishes when seen.

  • Swami: I understand this intellectually but still can’t realise the Self.

  • Maharshi: Why allow that thought to disturb your present state?

  • Swami: The Self is one, but I feel troubled.

  • Maharshi: Who feels troubled? If the Self is one, the question contradicts itself.

  • Swami: Grace is needed for realisation.

  • Maharshi: The very recognition of a higher guiding power is already Grace.
    Grace is within — “Isvara, Guru, and the Self are one.”

  • Swami: I pray for that Grace.

  • Maharshi: “Yes, yes.” (Affirmation)

If you want, I can also make an ultra-compressed “super-gist,” thematic summary, or a parallel explanation in simpler language.


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