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Richard Dawkins: the Inner God Illusion

Posted by robertpriddy on March 17, 2012

Professor Richard Dawkins has given a quite thorough account of the weaknesses and redundancy of the conception and belief in God mainly considered as an external (creative) cause or force acting upon the universe and mankind. However, he has not confronted what I deem considerably more numinous and mind-twisting conceptions of God as the omnipresent inner motivator of the universe and mankind. Though this ‘inner’ or personal Christ is found in Christianity too, not least in its mysticism, these ideas of ‘inner divinity’ are already gaining prominence, both in so-called New Age religions and bizarre forms of supposed ‘spirituality’, but not least in India, from where it seems to have originated long ago.

This brand of pan-theism is complex and can employ the subtlest causistry, so that even highly educated people with good language analytical skills are very easily taken in by its convolutions. Various interpreters of Adi Shankara’s non-dual philosophy (Advaita ) – including New Age variants are ingenious (one good example is Sri Nisagardatta’s book ‘I Am That’). Meanwhile, a noted European exponent of a non-dual God conception was the metaphysician Baruch Spinoza. Witness also the Sathya Sai Baba movement – consisting in some millions of believers with organisations in over 170 countries of the world, a striking example of the popularity of this ‘God is within, I Am God, You are God, Everything is God’ conception as embraced by a whole series of India’s Prime Ministers, Presidents, High Chief Justices etc. The substitution of the ‘new spirituality’ for traditional forms of theism has well begun. Imported Eastern thought and its re-invigoration since the 1960s plus the consequences of psychedelic experimentation are particularly involved. It has also diverse vulgarized forms, (eg. belief in ‘Jedi power’ rather than any traditional deity).

The sophistication and explanatory complexity of such pantheistic theories of omnipresent divinity is wide-ranging, it addresses many deep issues about our supposed ‘true nature’, ‘solves’ philosophical teasers about mind and matter, and explains paranormal phenomena and/or reported extra-sensory powers of all kinds. Some variants show very considerable rational resources – though they remain chiefly mental and not demonstrable experimentally. All in all, they are seen to be speculative to a high degree, resting on assumptions that are not borne out to any degree by empirical evidence or science. Once one is able to penetrate the labyrinthine theological explanations to get a critical overview of the whole conception they are seen to be self-defeating – the ultimate in long-distance circular reasoning. Its winding theoretical dead-ends can, however, have serious consequences for a persons’ life, especially since the common religious requirement of total faith in the particular doctrine and its promises of release from all cares and suffering (if not now, then in the hereafter).

To exercise ‘spiritual practices’ is the be-all-and-end-all of this resurgent religiosity. Such practices include the simplest forms like constant repetition of the Name of God, of prayers, of mantras and other verbal or oral sounds – devotional singing included. One very popular version of a path to spiritual realization is the stringent Pollyanna-mysticism of ‘A Course in Miracles’). At a more evolved level we find the concentration on action as an expression of one’s inherent divine nature – offering up all one does to God and ensuring that one acts according to supposed ‘divine commandments’ of one tradition or another. The most sublimated form of these ‘spiritual practices’ are those of service to mankind (regarded as service to God) – that is, doing good work selflessly. The inherent purpose of all these forms of ‘spiritual practice’ (Hindu sadhana) is claimed to be the attainment of identity with the Divine – or, worded differently, realisation of one’s own inherent and true nature as God. (There are many difficulties with this concept, of course – such as whether it should be a part of God or God per se!). This mysticism and its impracticability is extremely difficult to penetrate, not least because the claim is that one must commit  totally to it for a very long time to achieve its fruits- There is, of course, no way one can prove that such fruits – release from all suffering, never-ending bliss, consciousness etc are possible or can be achieved at all.

It seems that the expected demise of the ‘Church empires’ – partly because of their hollowness in the face of science, dryness in respect of personal daily experience – they may be replaced in much of the world by a much more personal (hence plastic and/or chameleon) idea of God which not only allows independence of worship but a wide range of personalised experiences of the supposed ‘universal omnipresent God’ through ritual, mediumism, channelling and other form of alleged religiosity. We are witnessing the start of what looks like a similar reaction as that which occurred when Roman civilisation and learning crumbled before the huge wave of fanatical Christian ascetics, anchorites and their supporters, as described so poignantly by Gibbon.

History shows that the predominant idea of God In societies and cultures within the range of history known to us has been of one or more animistic, theistic or deistic entities… a spirit, demigod or incarnation. These arose no doubt from a need to explain what (or who) rules over the environment and humankind – to supplicate and placate the imagined powers ‘outside’ the observable world or physical universe.

One hopes for the demise of such unsustainable ideas and beliefs – particularly in the doctrines and dogmas of traditional organized religions – in the face of the ever-growing and all-pervading importance of science as both an explanatory and a practical instrument of mankind – however long that may take (and if our species survives etc.). The unprecedented opening of the world to communication interaction, however, is bringing the silent global majority of religious believers more and more into conflict with the advance of human knowledge and culture that was once thought to be inevitable. Perhaps the clashes of mainstream religious dogmas which must surely leads to doubts and disillusion within them will eventually clear the way for secular, humanistic and non-faith-based societies… it is obviously too early to say. The intermediate phase would seem to be the rise and spread of the pantheism of the ‘inner reality’ brand. The search for “self-realization” in this mystical sense is the alluring attempt to find “the true self” as the creative motivator of both ‘the mind’ (i.e. minds) and its products, in short Divinity. This does not exclude the theistic bias – namely, that God can simultaneously be believed to be ‘behind’ all that happens – what we experience as reality – acting directly or indirectly as its ultimate cause (i.e. through ‘internal creationism’, where spirit creates the illusion of matter – itself taken as but an illusive mental-spiritual product). This pantheism is even sometimes extended to evolutionism — as an evolution of reincarnating and evolving ‘souls’ passing through a series of separate (biologically evolving) bodily incarnations.

Further, according to mentalist theories, the universe is conceived as the self-creation of mind, not of matter. This implies a philosophy of ‘mentalism’ as opposed to ‘physicalism’, which is the basis of many Eastern religious streams and – though in considerably weaker versions – in Western philosophy and ‘mystical’ thought. This ‘inner spirituality’ can fulfil the same psychological, social and emotional needs that long caused society’s dependence on an external God. With mentalism, one can have one’s cake and eat it – for ‘God is everything and everyone, within and without’. While logically and otherwise wholly untenable, demonstrating this becomes very tricky in the detail.

Nonetheless, the difficulties of this pantheistic position are considerable. It makes God equivalent to all being – so one cannot distinguish anything or anyone from God, not can one distinguish God any more than one can distinguish energy per se. In fact, one could substitute the word ‘energy’ with ‘God’ and vice-versa… as some do. The obvious difference that springs to mind, however, is that the concept of ‘energy’ is so very thoroughly and precisely defined and demonstrated – not least through the Einsteinian and quantum theories… whereas the idea ‘God’ is totally non-pragmatic and non-utilitarian, without any distinguishable reference and ultimately nothing but an all-encompassing term of terminal vagueness.

Perhaps we thereby arrive at something meriting Bertrand Russell’s amusing description “a night where all cows are black”, or the amusing but undeniable tautology ‘Everything is Everything’. (Note: Advaita – a variant of philosophical ‘mentalism’ – holds that matter is a mind-created ‘illusion’ (Maya) which is actually emptiness, hence: “Everything is Nothing and Nothing is Everything” – Sathya Sai Baba)


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"Remember, there are no real failures in life, only results. There are no true tragedies, only lessons. And there really are no problems, only opportunities waiting to be recognized as solutions by the person of wisdom."

-- Robin Sharma

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Being free of fear is not a matter of never feeling it, but of not being flattened when we do. We can feel it and know it is a natural phenomenon, also an impermanent one, which will have its say and be gone.

—David Guy, “Trying to Speak: A Personal History of Stage Fright”

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“We will have eternity to celebrate the victories but only a few hours before sunset to win them.” — Amy Carmichael


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“For what it’s worth, it’s never too late or, in my case, too early to be whoever you want to be . . . I hope you live a life you’re proud of. If you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again.” —F. Scott Fitzgerald “
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” —Friedrich Nietzsche

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Is faith or religious belief the result of an instinctive inheritance?

Posted by robertpriddy on April 19, 2018

It has been asserted that there is a ‘religious instinct’, some sense inherited at birth which arises from experiences of ancestors that are passed on in some manner. It is further imagined that this instinct develops into belief in some intelligent motivation which steers nature, the world or human existence. This assertion is clearly made in defence of a religious perspective, whether faith that there is a god (or many gods) who or which is benevolently intentioned.

For something to be an instinct it must be present (at least in a potential form) from birth onwards, it is inherited. There is no known or demonstrable instinctive basis for religious belief, that is entirely guesswork. The baby has an instinct to seek the nipple, but not to cry fro a mother (or father), for that develops later when it learns that the pleasing and stimulating touch and warmth come from a person. There is an instinct to seek pleasure, avoid pain….. religion cannot be inherited in any form whatever, however, but only an impulse to seek those things necessary to the infant’s survival and pleasure. Children grow up into an environment (unless they are deprived) where everything is controlled by their mother, and soon also father. This is not an instinct but a learned understanding, while beliefs are also learned not inborn in any respect. When they mature they realise that their parents are not gods, that their parents’ knowledge is really very limited. Besides, the forces of nature may prove to be anything but beneficially predictable. When the security of protection of mother and father assumes little or no further importance, the priest – wanting to create and if need be enforce social order – and probably gain personal security through power over his group, the spirits of nature, of the ancestors and so on until someone proposes an all-knowing protective (and also punishing) ‘holy spirit’. The assertion that an instinct for religious belief has led us to evolve and prosper flies in the face of humanities’ greatest achievements, understanding evolution and nature, which has had to fight against religious obscurantism tooth and nail. That we divide and conquer is also a result of evolutionary struggle, but religions divide people more than any political ideology… so conflicts arise, sometimes exclusively for religious beliefs (as we are witnessing these days increasingly again).

VILLAGE WISDOM SURVVL DANGER AVOID MEME 


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BK Every thought is a seed. If you plant crab apples don't count on harvesting Golden Delicious.


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Mind is a very difficult thing. Our happiness, sadness, laughter, tears, joy, pain -- everything is actually the achievement of our mind. The mind drags to greed, lust, jealousy, anger and the mind teaches to love, respect God, binds in affection, affection.
SriSrima said," The mind is bound and the mind is free," That is, the way you can run the mind, his spiritual development or degradation will be the same. Whatever our senses or senses matter. Now the mind runs the senses --- So the religion of the mind is the deficit of the subject. I get happiness in my mind when I get it, and when I don't get it, I get anger or sadness. It's a very rare act to put the mind away from senses or subjects or temptations at the feet of God.
Everyday you have to talk to your heart, love her, take care of her. That is definitely not possible at all. But if this act can be included in the way I do daily activities, then the senses will slowly be introverted. Little by little it can be seen in the habit that the mind is being spoken even while working. This can show yourself. This is the practice.
If you have this habit, you won't get any pain, you won't need anyone by your side. Because there's another me in me. Who else do you want???
Mind you see and I see, don't let anyone else see..!!
Hail Mother... 🙏


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"We won't have a society if we destroy the environment."

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B Why doesn't Lord Buddha comment on the soul and the body being different or the same in the Jāliya Sutta (DN-7) ?

I am reading the Jāliya Sutta (DN-7) and the Buddha continues to avoid answering the question if the soul and the body are the same thing or the soul and the body are different things, why is this?

From my limited reading of Buddhist text so far I though the Buddha was quite clear that there is no soul or self but rather just a stream of thoughts and consciousness that arise and fall away.


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The soul and body being the same leads to the view that the body dies, the soul dies, no need to strive for nibbana cause no more rebirth. This is annihilation view.

The soul and body are different, leads to the notion of an eternal soul surviving bodily death. This is the eternalism view.

The middle path is the view of dependent origination. This arises, that arises, this ceases, that ceases.

The questioner may mistakenly misconceive the no self teachings as annihilation view.

From other suttas, it's clear that the Buddha didn't want the people to simply have a view of no self (practically speaking, it's still useful, just don't be attached to it) but rather to directly see no self for oneself. It's also possible to be attached to view of no self as an intellectual thing, which hinders the path. Directly seeing no self is via vipassana, seeing impermanence, suffering and thus not worth regarding as self.


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PNR

Thank you for adding me to this group... I work in elderly care and have done for over 26 years so I’ve experienced many things. But the other morning I was in a residents room assisting her with breakfast n out of the blue she said “Janet I had a ghost in my room last nite” so I asked her to describe him she just said he was a gentleman and a grandad who was wearing a tweed jacket n he was a very nice!! Staff have seen a figure when passing in the room next door on several occasions, plus the lady who is in that room very often tells someone to get out of her room. I honestly believe that the elderly are in tune with spirits n just wondered wot your thoughts were on this?


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B Karma means action (and its consequences). All intentional actions create karma.

The motivation, or intention, behind our actions determines the karmic impact. If you are doing something for the benefit of all sentient beings - this is wholesome karma.

There are no Buddhist mantras that serve egoic purposes.

The highest siddhi is to cultivate compassion.

Venerable Master Hsuan Hua:

"In every single movement and in every single action the beings of the Saha world act entirely out of greed, entirely out of hatred or entirely out of stupidity. In the methods typical of the world they use greed, hatred and stupidity as they go on about cultivating their conduct. Now in taking up the methods for transcending the world, they still use greed, hatred and stupidity as they go on about cultivating their conduct. In cultivating they become greedily attached to becoming enlightened. They sit in dhyana meditation for two and a half days and figure that they ought to become enlightened then. They cultivate a dharma for two and a half days and figure that they ought to have gotten spiritual powers. They recite the Buddha's name for two and a half days and then figure that they should gain the mindfulness-of-the-buddha samadhi! You just take a look at how huge a mind of greed is involved in this. These are all manifestations of the ghost of the greedy mind."


 teachers have said that siddhis have to be discarded even if you can use them. There were unfortunate people who got carried away by such powers which destroyed their spiritual progress because they were tempted by them. You may end up delaying your liberation by lifetimes due to attachments to such powers.



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PNR

Sweet!👍
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My grandma was my best friend. She passed away 10 years ago in September. My boyfriend has never met her. She loved sunflowers. I wanted to get fake sunflowers for her grave, and he bought real ones, because he “had to make a good impression, since it was the first time he would be meeting her.” My niece took the same photos from both of our phones.... at the same time. ONLY my photos have this beam of light coming down from the clouds. Through the gravestone. I think it’s safe to say my grandma approves of him


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-If a drop of water falls into the ocean, it gets mixed into the sea, does it have a different entity then? Stays in one sense, doesn't stay in one sense. It is in the sense that the rain drop did not get destroyed so much, it remained the promise of the sea. Why not stay again, because there is no way to see her apart. As the infinity thing is mixed with infinity, it doesn't have any unique. We're just that rainbow. Until we see God in ourselves or in ourselves in #God, let us accept our distinct existence. Though he-doesn't really exist. But the more transparent the intelligence is, the more we move forward in #spiritual life the more our limitations are diminished, the titles are diminished. We become the same by being immersed in the ocean of God and losing our individuality, like a doll of salt, when it falls into the sea, it fades into the sea. This is our goal in life. 💧🌌💧💫💫💫













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